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  • mark

    KNITTING
    TECHNOLOGY
    A comprehensive handbook and practical guide
    Third edition
    David J Spencer

    https://nurdspace.nl/images/c/cd/KNITTING_TECHNOLOGY.pdf

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  • mark

    THREE DIMENSIONAL SEAMLESS GARMENT KNITTING ON V-BED FLAT KNITTING MACHINES

    https://textiles.ncsu.edu/tatm/wp-content/uploads/sites/4/2017/11/Choi_full_145_05.pdf

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  • Robert Ingemarsson

    Thanks mark - great links

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  • mark

    this is more the old hand operated flatbed machines, but good resources to know (and people I would magically gift a Kniterate to in a perfect world)

    https://alessandrina.com/

    https://guagliumi.com/category/knitting-machine-basics/

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  • mark

    Just received a newsletter, so reminded to mention www.knittingindustry.com  

    There are often announcement of Webinar that one can sign up for from Shima Seiki and other manufacturers. And just general over overview of goings on in the industry.

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  • Lydia

    thx for the links!

    https://dl.acm.org/doi/abs/10.1145/3379337.3415590

    BTW Have you seen this one as well? https://github.com/textiles-lab/knitout-backend-kniterate/

    I've seen a previous post about how to discuss and contact each other. I am not a FB fan too, but I like to get in touch as well. Maybe we can help each other.  I know a lot about knitting machines like Brother and Silver Reed an have a huge digital archive. Hopefully my Kniterate arrives coming October :)

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  • mark

    I'm quite excited about knitout and all the work coming out  of CMU. 

    https://textiles-lab.github.io/ is sort of a home page, with all sorts of links to their work.  Stranglely the KnitGIST paper isn't listed there, so thanks for the link.  Which is worked out to be a good thing because it led to the universe https://github.com/HCIELab/fabpub and https://hcie.csail.mit.edu/fabpub/fabgalaxy/ which have Machine Knitting and Knitting links

    Believe DM is still possible on old forums linked to out of announcements

     

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  • Robert Ingemarsson

    ive run the textiles-lab knitout backend for kniterate and works well - Have been using it to knit lots of patterns from here 

    https://github.com/textiles-lab/knitdb

    It would be so amazing to be able to export from knitdb -> the kniterate design tool.

    For knitting patterns this all seems great, but wben you want to start knitting double sided patterned knits, them im back do doing this in the kniterate design software, and when you come to start shaping thats a different story as well

    Still lots of work to be done to make designing of a patterned  jumper in multiple sizes easy!

     

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  • OJ

    Oh, so that's you, Robert Ingemarsson! :) I coached a small group of grad students earlier this year, who are using knitout. I don't use knitout but they had questions about knitting some advanced knit structures and about some settings that I was able to help them with.

    For anyone new to knitting and needs a description of popular knits used in garments, this playlist seems to have good explanations with samples. (Fabrics and garments were knitted on a variety of knitting machines, I think.) 

    https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLt_wyl0G73g89zoBBP3afhYAagv37UabH

    I haven't watched every video on the list, but so far I think the programming would be pretty straightforward in the Kniterate design app once you're a little familiar with it. When you're looking to move beyond basic stitch patterns, I can sometimes help.

    Olgalyn

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  • OJ

    mark Thanks for the links! Your Fab Galaxy link has a trailing space in it, so I'm getting a 404, but great stuff there.

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  • mark

    @OJ thanks, looks like a non ascii got included, believe it fixed now, seeing the same thing in a pending post. hopefully I'll QA a little better now that I know my cut and paste isn't playing well with the forum software.

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  • Robert Ingemarsson

    @OJ - Thanks for those videos - the look great and will definitely run through them.

    We are trying really hard to get the shaping working on kniterate, particularly 2 color so we can do 2 color patterns to match our scarves, and then are can start on some of the amazing patterns  that you are showing us - They look absolutely amazing.

    I have a feeling that the shaping with 2 colours is going to be impossible at this stage directly in the application, unless I can find a way to stop the compiler throwing an error with short rows.

    OJ Thank you so much for showing whats possible with patterns - Its really inspiring and cant wait till we can produce jumpers, and then start experimenting with different patterns on the jumpers...

    Thanks once again :)

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  • OJ

    Happy to help, Robert Ingemarsson!

    Some good videos on the CottonWorks site:

    Knitting fundamentals - The parts about warp knitting and circular knitting don't apply to Kniterate, but there are good animations of knit stitches, tucks, misses, dropped stitches, and transfers for those new to knitting.
    https://www.cottonworks.com/topics/sourcing-manufacturing/sweater-manufacturing/the-art-of-sweater-manufacturing-basics/#knitting-fundamentals

    Sweater manufacturing overview page - info on the different types of manufacturing (using this in the Intro class I teach). "Knit to wear" won't apply to Kniterate except for really small items.

    https://www.cottonworks.com/topics/sourcing-manufacturing/sweater-manufacturing/the-art-of-sweater-manufacturing-manufacturing/

     

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  • Robert Ingemarsson

    OJ ohhh - they look like great resource  - Thank you so much.. Its funny, howeve much you search on google, you never find exactly what you are looking for, and these resource look great :):)

    More weekend reading :):)

    OJ (or anyone else here), I presume no one has yet successfully managed to produce 2 color shaped jumpers as the software fails to compile such designs.?

    Thanks once again, and its great to see the community a little more active again :)

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  • OJ

    Robert Ingemarsson I haven't tried shaped pieces yet. I was waiting for the template! :)

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  • mark

    Ultimately it is knitout centric, but https://knit.work/index is a good introduction of terminolgy, with a few shoutouts to Kniterate

    https://knit.work/knitout-kniterate/

    https://knit.work/knitout-backends/

    https://knit.work/knitout-extensions/

    https://knit.work/short-rows/

     

    (dropdown in code display: interlock, rib, garter stitch, sheet cast on,...)

     

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  • mark

    Knit Sketching: from Cut & Sew Patterns to Machine-Knit Garments

    https://dl.acm.org/doi/abs/10.1145/3450626.3459752

    short video version of page available on page

    homepage: http://w-x.ch/

    github: https://github.com/xionluhnis/knitsketching

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  • mark

    There is an online demo of "Knit Sketching" available, but including URL get post "Pending" which from past experience can take more that a week to show up.

     

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  • Robert Ingemarsson

    That looks amazing - going to run that this week and see what it spits out. From the look it’s produces a knit out file - is this correct. If so we can then try and convert that into a kcode file for kniterate!

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  • Robert Ingemarsson

    So. - have downloaded and run this - looks amazing, and is meant to output knitout however for some reason this is not working.

    Have raised an issue on the git repo and will let you know when its fixed..

    Once its fixed I will use the knoutout kniterate backend convertor to see if we can knit the garments.

    Gerard Rubio, have you seen this, could be useful to use as part of your pipeline rather than building everything from scratch..?

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  • mark

    Robert Ingemarsson googling the author name and kniterate reveals a 2019 techcrunch article that may answer your question

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  • Robert Ingemarsson

    So - Latest update.. We have successful run the knitsketching program, loaded a pattern and successfully generated knitout files.

    Running the knoutout-> kniterate backend convertor does not add the waste yarnsucessfully, so I have raised an issue on that project to see if we can get that fixed. (See Below)

    Once that is fixed we will run the knit through our machine and see what we get out..

     

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  • mark

    Robert Ingemarsson Thanks for the  update, excited to hear of progress.

    One thing I read of elsewhere a potential limitation of Kniterate is the uniform takedown of the rollers, and the implication of possible issues during short rowing.  Any indication of "Knit Skecthing" providing conifiguration to account for that, or even if it is a real problem?

    Looking forward to progress reports (and shots of beautiful garments :) )

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  • Robert Ingemarsson

    Hi for the rollers - we have noticed that during the bindoff but joes not cause problems after the garment is steamed

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  • Robert Ingemarsson

    So we now have knit sketching up and running . We have to sort issues in the bindoff but yesterday we started knitting a complex jumper (which did drop stitches when bringing in second yarns for the Jacquard section.

    The developer is super responsive to comments and will be so documenting the pattern systems later for Jaquard knitting.

    I am going to look at the code to try and add the knitout -> kniterate converter and get the bindon sorted so we can us this software to create 2d and 3d knitted garments :) would be a massive step forward compared to todays software :

    Jacuard Patterning

    Full Control over Shaping

     

    3D Visualisation

    Beanie - 3D garment 

    Knitout Code (Transformable to kCode with the knitoutt-knitereate-backend convertor)

    Stitch Visualizer.

    NOTE

    This is not easy to get up and running or use - You probably need to be very comfortable using software from github...

     
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  • Robert Ingemarsson

    So, the first piece has come off the knit sketching pipeline

    Knitsketching -> knitout -> convert to kniterate(knitout) -> convert to kcode

    I now understand the software more and can do patterning (with multiple patterns in a knit), different stitch types (with the stitch pattern editor)

    I have started work on building the waste section into knit sketching, and then will incorportate the kniterate convertor so we can generate kcode directly from KnitSketching.

    Next stage to knit a shaped garment.

     

     

     

     

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  • Robert Ingemarsson

    So - shaping of jumpers we can do - it works beautifully in knit sketching however, it runs the feeders on after another rather than 2 feeders in parallel.

    Fix this, and we will have some amazing software to allow us to shape without hassle  !!!

    Any clever minds fancy tackling this?

    Shaping showing the sections to knit..

    Stiches showing the decreases that are happening

     

    Knitout output showing non parallel knitting if the top sections..

     

     

     

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  • Robert Ingemarsson

    And today, we have parallel bind-on, and knitting of the top of the jumper in parallel.

    Sucessfully converted to kcode and waiting for time on the machine to run (Think it may not knit perfectly, but want to see what it does) "_

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  • OJ

    Interesting! But I'm not sure I understand. Is it an actual cast-on where the blue begins? Or is it continuing to knit the live stitches with the second feeder at that point?

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  • Robert Ingemarsson

    This is the original design.

    And the annotated version of the stitches 

     

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